Wow look like I've missed something awesome
Anybody has a replay of the first start?

Quote from flymike91 :

I don't believe CO2 is a pollutant.

It is, that's not the point.
I think the debate is about knowing the consequences on the global temperature. Is CO2 really so important for global temperature?

The problem is, we can't debate about science here... we aren't scientists...
The only thing I can observe is that the answer is not very clear apparently even for scientists.

@mookie
As we are in a "modern age" we should not accept that there are people starving, at all

Quote from crashgate3 :

i don't see a problem, as long as it's nutritious and is the same taste and texture. I'd happily eat it.

+1

Happy birthday Scawen!

I hesitated to post, because I don't know if you can call me a musician....
But since I did alot of songs with Fruity Loops

- Artist Name
I'm not sure you can call me an "artist"... But still, my name is Jorge Paula Pinheiro
- Genre
Let's call it Metal...
- Experience and History
Never played any instrument but use Fruity Loops for some years.The problem is that guitar sound a bit strange with this program But I tried to make it sound as good as possible
- Software
Fruity Loops 8
- Website
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... 8A29164164240&index=0
- anything else you want to let us know about
I have not the pretention to be an artist but wanted to share what I did with you

Last edited by Sir moi 407, Sat 28 Nov 2009, 13:26.

Seems like we can forget about Xmas :/
I hope it won't take too long... We already waited 1 year.
But well I know you can't do anything Scawen so only thing I can do is wish you good luck!

Pity it was at 5-6h morning
Too early for me to watch the race, was sleeping

We can do an interesting category, something new, something we've never seen before, something fun
RB4/LX4/FZ5 in BL2 or BL2R
That would be awesome to see such different cars competing against each other

It's working fine here with XP 32 bit with FF.
This is very pratical to be able to join an LFS server with a link!
Thanks Victor, Thanks Scawen.

It's about Hacker Dogs driving the Scirocco.

Oh comon people...
If believing that what happens in "The Day After Tomorrow" is possible is ridiculous, believing that what happens in this one is possible is even more ^^
People are obsessed with the idea of the end of the humanity, it's a fantasy and this films are juste feeding this fantasy (a good exemple is "we're all gonna die because of global warming")

Now I liked the film, not because of the story-line or because of all this ridifulous stereotypes but because it was simply entertaining

Yea enduro Rally yould be a coooooooooooooool
And something like 2 categories: RB4/XFG

We at LFS ES did a 2hours endurance race with XFG / RB4 something like 2 years ago and TBH it was really fun with XFG
But RB4 is not good for this because the tyres just burn...
So it's not that crazy to do endurance races in rallycross

Quote from AndroidXP :

This is a very interesting read regarding this topic, though I'm not sure if it's publicly available at the moment.

I read the 2 first pages, really interesting!

lol
That made me laught
Grats to the winner

Quote from Intrepid :

Yes it is normal [...]

You are focusing too much on Bill Gates, he was just an example...
The problem is not with this people receiving so much money but with people not having enough money to have a decent life.
And do you think these people are poor because they are lazy, because they deserve it? In the extreme case of USA, the poor can even die because they haven't enough money...
Thing is, money for this poor people has to come from somewhere. And you have to take money where there is money. Yes: Big Industries, Big Banks, etc...
Or wait, maybe all this poor people just deserve to have shitty lifes because we all know that poor people are only "Lazy people" that don't get the capitalist concept of merit...

Well that said, I think this is going to lead us to nowhere so I'll try to stop this debate with you.
You have your opinions I have mines

My English is far from perfect as you can see so... I hope it's understable

Quote from Intrepid :

Your confusing labour Vs value. It's that value that has been rewarded, and considering his gigantic worldwide success anyone that says he isn't worth might need to consider what operating system they use on their computer.

Sure labour is not everything... There are alot of things to take into account!
But do you think it is normal that he wins 10'000 times more than a normal worker while there are alot of people working very hard for very little?
I don't...

Quote from Intrepid :

Also I'd like to add we do not live in a true capitalistic society.... far from it. Otherwise we probably wouldn't trade in a fiat currency

We don't live in a 100% capitalist society, and that's why I won't die if I'm sick and have no money

There is no perfect solution... Just some better ones
Comunism doesn't reward merit, that's true!
But it's neither the case of the actual Capitalism system...
(I'm not sure if Bill Gates really worked 2'000'000'000 more than a normal worker.)

I want Rockingham!

Quote from IlGuercio :

Yeah i know,im expecting a river of "It isn't fair to use ABS" posts now...

It isn't fair to use ABS.

sorry

erm... working on LFS?

Everything is working here with XP SP3

Quote :

So when he updates the FXO and FZ50 cars then you will get higher resolution textures for them.

Oh, so FXO/R and FZ5/R aren't finished yet? I thought you didn't include them in test patch because it wouldn't be compatible with Z

Anyway, thanks for your work! And really hope to see the next patch this year... It will wake up LFS community

The main reason why people lost motivation is because they thought there was going to be patch, so they were happy with this perspective and then it got delayed.
The fact that we are all expepting for a good update since August 2008 (when we knew the Scirocco was going to be added) is making some people bored and that's perfectly normal (and the fact that patch Z wasn't a major update TBH).
It is not sad, it is not happy, it's just how things work.
When the patch will come, people will gain motivation again because this time we will get a LOT of updates!

@GianniC
You don't seem to know that alot of respected and respectful drivers left LFS because they were simply bored...
They didn't complain about anything, they were not noobs, and certainly not kids.
Because when I read your post, it looks like your insulting people just because they are bored of the game

Now let's just wait for the update to see the LFS community living again

There are alot of leagues running with all cars and all tracks in LFS

Quote from GianniC :

And really, blaming the lack of patches or updates for not racing is incredibly morronic. But I guess this is part of the younger generations, eyecandy, updates and new toys is all they care
Quit complaining and making completely faulty arguments.


about. What about having fun with what you have ? Isn't that good enough already ? How many of those complaining about the "lack of updates that's why I do not race" have decently tryed ALL the LFS availlable cars ? How many of you have done races at FE Black Rev (to name a track) ? How many of you have even tryed controlling the LX6 ? Ect....

Wrong, if for one reason the LFS Community is not in it's best shape it is all because of the community.

First of all, why wouldn't you race or have fun without a new patch ?
Secondly, patch delay ? What delay ? Cause the kiddo's around here got overly exited about the VW ? Get mature, that happens in every game. Let the Devs do their work and stop ruining OUR community with YOUR nonsense.

Back in S1 we had 6 track layouts and 3 cars; and the community was great and large. But you people's attitude these days, that's whats wrong. Unthankfull kiddo's who can't focus on something and keep for a longer term playing with it. It's like those kids who lay on the floor in the supermarket crying why they don't get the latest Mega Mindy action doll, despite already have a dozen of dolls at home. Going a bit off-topic, but please... Get lost with your patch whining and blaming everything on that. This is a sim racing community, this is a hardcore, low numbered and close group of people. Go fix your attitude, patch or not has nothing to do with LFS. And if you so badly need patches and eyecandy; then LFS is not the quality racing simulator for you. Go play one of EA's games then, but at least stop polluting our community and forum with your idiot nonsense.

I'm looking forward to the new tyre psychics and a possible change in the damage model, and hopefuly the VW and Rockingham get delayed for another year (in the hope that the kids who can't wait go away and we can have our sim racing communtiy back, with some decent high standard).

End rant, thank you.

So for you people that are bored of LFS are:
morrons, kids, immature, noobs...

You have more?

Loosing motivation because of a patch delay is perfectly normal

Last edited by Sir moi 407, Wed 21 Oct 2009, 16:05.